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Social Bookmarking v Story Submission for Self Promotion

October 9, 2007 Posted under: Promotion by Caroline Middlebrook

Scenario: You are an Internet marketer and you have a whole bunch of websites, blogs, articles etc that make you money. You wish to promote these in order to develop backlinks and drive traffic. I am not talking about the kind of self promotion where you literally promote yourself as a person, such as via a personal blog like this one. I’m talking your non-public earning websites.

Social Media Promotional Strategies

I began to learn about social media in general from the Thirty Day Challenge and since then I have become a regular user of Facebook, StumbleUpon, Sphinn and Twitter and an occasional visitor of Digg. The issue that I have, is that I have a personal profile under my name on all of these websites. I often promote my own blog posts from this blog on those sites but I don’t wish to promote my niche sites because I don’t want people to know what they are.

I have discussed this dilemma before when I posted the question of whether or not you should have multiple accounts on social media sites. In that post I actually highlighted the difference between social bookmarking, story submission and community type social media but at the time I didn’t quite understand how I could make use of that distinction.

My Personal Interest in Story Submission

The two services I use most days are Sphinn and StumbleUpon. I sometimes look at Digg but it’s usually a little too juvenile for me. These are all story submission services and the key point here is that the person who submits a story or website is saying to the users of that service, “Hey, look at this - this is great content and I think you’ll like it.” By submitting something you are shoving it in other people’s faces and this is where the whole issue of social media abuse comes in.

I first experienced this whilst taking part in the Thirty Day Challenge. I wont repeat the whole thing as I talked about it in my earlier post but the point was that people were submitting their own niche sites into these services to get the rankings / backlinks / traffic etc but in doing so they were effectively spamming the social media with irrelevant or poor quality submissions. Some weeks later I published another post saying that I was dropping social media completely as part of my niche marketing efforts.

Lightbulb Moment - Social Bookmarking is Personal

The reason I decided to drop social media is because I had got it into my head that social media = story submission. I totally forgot about bookmarking sites and this is most likely because I don’t use them myself. I like the hierarchical organisation of my Firefox bookmarks. For some reason I had a lightbulb moment today when I realised that social bookmarking is a personal thing. You are making personal bookmarks of your own choices and you are not thrusting those bookmarks onto other people.

Of course, bookmarking a page provides a backlink to it, and these bookmarks are public so other people can find them. Furthermore, most of the sites work by the use of tagging which means you can use your chosen keywords to tag your sites appropriately. Now that I’ve cleared that up in my own head I now realise that I was wrong in my previous decision to abandon social media!

The New Way Forward For Me

No, I don’t want to have multiple Facebook accounts or Digg accounts and get myself banned but bookmarks are different. I now intend to create an account for these sites and it will not be in my own name but I can use the same name for all of them. I don’t need to be keeping track of lots of names for lots of niches because they are simply bookmarks. I’m not trying to build a profile here.

I do feel somewhat silly changing my position on this matter several times now but that is what this blog is about! I am learning and therefore much of what I write is me thinking out loud about the thought processes that I am going through.

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18 Comments:

WarriorBlog
October 9, 2007

Well you don’t HAVE to bookmark your own story for self promotion on your website. Just bookmark your article you submitted to article Directories.

Unfortunately, I don’t use Social Bookmarking to bookmark people content I like, just my own content on Article Directory. I don’t think it is necessary at all…

My honest opinion,
Sean.

Caroline Middlebrook
October 9, 2007

@Warrior, no of course you don’t have to do anything, but its a valuable backlink strategy that I wanted to be able to make use of in an ethical way.

Derek Todom
October 9, 2007

I think multiple accounts are fine as long as you keep each set of accounts in context. If you are providing quality content , and giving people what they want and need, no harm done.

Simonne
October 10, 2007

This is a great observation: social bookmarking is personal, so nobody would get your account banned for niche posts submissions. This is the mistake I made in the beginning: thinking that all those social sites were alike. Then, I wanted to “research” how to reach the front page of such a site: it took me only 5 accounts, 5 votes which triggered users to vote for that story and promote it to the front page.

The end? It took them one day to ban my site forever. Even now, one year later, I cannot submit anything there. But I learned that there is power in social media.

Eddie Starr
October 10, 2007

You know, I find it fascinating that their are so many resources for promotion out there. Perhaps I should look into the idea of somehow setting up a Social Netwokring Course for College Study. I really apprecaite your blogs, keep up the great work, im a reguar reader :)

-Eddie Starr

Caroline Middlebrook
October 10, 2007

@Simonne, Yes exactly. There is a crucial difference.

@Eddie, I would be surprised if there aren’t already degrees being offered in Universities for the study of social media! It really is fascinating and yes there seems to be an abundance of promotional resources - it can be a bit overwhelming!

Ayopeju Falekulo
October 10, 2007

Funny the light bulb went up in my head yesterday as well, and so for the first time I only noted in twitter and the social bookmarking sites my new post and didn’t bother with the rest as the proper use of digg, netscape etc finally dawned on me.
I knew that twitter was useful as my followers would check out the post, that’s how I usually know when you’ve posted new content. My Twitter is conected to Facebook so my friends can follow from there too.
Thanks for the post, its definitely a learning process.

Chee Kui
October 10, 2007

Yeah, StumbleUpon is great! There’s nothing wrong about submitting your own blog but the traffic from StumbleUpon will gradually decrease if you do that repeatedly.

So, get some new friends on StumbleUpon and you will get lots of traffic.. and of course, make sure you write good content ;)

Caroline Middlebrook
October 10, 2007

@Ayopeju, Twitter and Facebook are what I would call ’social networking’ - here you are building a profile that’s all about you, so I certainly wouldn’t use those for my niches but I use them to talk about myself :D

@Chee, Spot on there. In the beginning I submitted my own posts to SU and they did ok at first and then traffic just died so I stopped submitting. Luckily I have a few readers that seem to regularly submit things for me (thanks folks!) and then I just give it a thumbs up later. Traffic is now back up again to those posts that get stumbled.

Michelle
October 10, 2007

Feel like your constantly changing your position? Welcome to my world! But as you have said - this blog is a learning environment. If you can’t make considered judgements, and then reconsider them - here - then where!

Barbra Sundquist
October 10, 2007

I like reading about people who change their minds. It shows that they are still learning and evaluating. And I learn from their experiences.

Alex R.
October 10, 2007

So how has Spinn and StumbleUpon served you? I haven’t used any social bookmarking yet, I may in the future.

Caroline Middlebrook
October 10, 2007

@Michelle, well it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind isn’t it? :)

@Barbra, Yup thats the basic approach that I’m trying to take with this blog in general. I don’t suggest that I am an expert - I simply report my thoughts and findings.

@Alex, StumbleUpon is by far my largest source of traffic. Sphinn is starting to send a little but nowhere near the likes of SU. However, I feel like I’m learning a lot by using Sphinn.

deborah
October 12, 2007

I have various accounts — digg, su, etc. I bookmark a lot of sites. I don’t know how people would know if my site was my niche site or not since I stumble and bookmark so many.

Obviously, they would know that a Target.com or a website of that size was not mine and not a niche site. Yet how would anyone know if you bookmark a small site whether it’s a niche site or not?

If you bookmark a niche site of someone on your 30DC team or a 30DC friend, then are you somehow giving away that person’s niche because you use your real name?

I don’t have any answers at the moment–just questions.

I like your blog!

deborah
October 12, 2007

PS: I’ll stumble you now.

Caroline Middlebrook
October 12, 2007

@Deborah, If you are a heavy user of those sites then its possible that your niche sites could get lost in the crowd.

But for me, I tend to vote up a lot of existing content but I don’t submit very much so it would most definitely stick out. Plus what I do submit tends to be Internet marketing related so if I suddenly submitted a “sausage making” website then again, it would stick out.

Also, the only reason I am concerned about it is because I blog about it. This brings attention to me, so people are more likely to look at my profile and see what I’m doing. For somebody who just goes about their business and happens to be making money but doesn’t tell people about it, nobody would have a clue. So, I probably should have made that distinction in the posts - it’s because I’m a blogger that I feel I need to separate myself from my niches.

And thanks for the Stumble :)

Chatchai R
March 21, 2008

Hi Carol,
Is niche really something you need to always preserve or protect? Sorry but I really curious.
Rgds,

Chris Lang
May 4, 2008

You really need to consider this article when you talk about what I revealed in your social profiles.

Digg is also exposing our private settings for reasons that are too speculative to mention. However it is true that Digg exposes your shout history to anyone.

As shouts leading to Digg pages build up the links are in our history files and they are PUBLIC! As you continually shout your own content you begin to look like someone only using Digg to get traffic and links to Google and Yahoo!

The proof is here with screen shots:

http://www.keywebdata.com/?p=71

And screen shots of search engine rankings going up after the test site quit shouting it’s own content.

Chris Langs last blog post..How to Get More Diggs, Digg Privacy Breach and Why Shouts Mean to Your Search Rankings


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