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Integrating An Autoresponder With a Membership Site

April 23, 2009 Posted under: Making Money Online by Caroline Middlebrook

I have hit a problem on my software project and I’m hoping that I might just find the solution from one of my lovely readers :-) First of all I’ll explain what it is I’m trying to do and why.

The Freebie PreSell Using Email Lists

Recently I described how I like to make money using email lists that give something away for free and promote something within the free information. I intend to use a somewhat similar model for the membership site that I am building for my software project. The basic business model is this: I’ll have a paid membership site costing $xx a month which will provide various tools for members. In addition to the paid version I shall also offer a free membership which will have a cut down version of one of the tools.

Now of course the idea here is that I use the free membership to attract potential customers but attempt to sell the paid version to those free members and I intend to do that selling via an email list. The content of the email autoresponder sequence will be different to something such as my Bloggers Bible as I’m not offering a course this time. Instead I’ll have tips on how to use the software, show what advanced features are in the paid version etc.

But there is a problem with this approach and that is that customers are in charge of the email they receive and may unsubscribe at any time.

Integrating Email Subscriptions to Memberships

Email spam has become a huge problem in recent years and so now we have all sorts of laws in place to control it. If you are somebody who emails people using any kind of list then you need to be aware of these laws. If you use a service such as AWeber to manage your list then they are taken care of for you. There must be an unsubscribe link in every email, you must include a real postal address in every email and so on.

That unsubscribe link puts the customer in control and so if you want to keep people on your lists you must give them a very good reason to stay subscribed. That is why I have never been a fan of just giving people a free report as an incentive to sign up to your list because once they’ve downloaded it what other incentive is there to stay subscribed? I myself have frequently joined a list to get some freebie and then immediately unsubscribed. So there needs to be some inherent value in staying subscribed to the list.

In the case of my membership site what I want to do is tie in the email with the membership itself (for the free members this is). Ideally I would like the customers email address to act as their login into the membership site so the idea is that as long as they want to be a member and enjoy the benefits of the free tools, they agree to receive my emails. Now of course, because of these anti-spam laws the customer always has that option to unsubscribe from the email list at any time – that will never change but what I want to do is have that unsubscribe integrated with my site so that if the member chooses to unsubscribe from my email list, their membership is suspended at the same time.

What I’ve Tried So Far

I know this is possible because I belong to various membership sites myself that do this so I’m not sure why I’m having such trouble with it. There’s two halves to the solution really – the email list manager and the membership manager of my website. Now for the membership manager there are two ways I can do this. Firstly I can build my own system and I have already built a basic system so I know it works. This gives me full control over what happens to members on my site but to be honest I would rather use a third party system such as aMember to manage members as they have a lot of features such as integration with payment processors which will save me a lot of development work.

The other solution is to try and integrate with a third party email system such as AWeber. As it happens, AWeber is famed for its email deliverability statistics – they get more emails through than any other provider but the downside is that they do not like integration and make it impossible to do what I want to do. When a subscriber unsubscribes from an email list there is no way to setup any kind of automation rule which I could use to notify either aMember or my custom software that they have unsubscribed. I have asked GetResponse if they can do what I need and they cannot.

The aMember Email System

On the day that I started typing out this blog post the support guys at aMember got back to me and gave me some help with their email system. I have since installed the aMember trial software and started to set things up and test them out. There is good news and bad news. The good news is that they do have a decent auto-responder built into their software.

You can setup a sequence for each product you wish to protect and you can even setup a separate sequence for members who allow their subscriptions to lapse. The bad news is that the system is setup to allow the members to unsubscribe from the email list independently of their accounts. This is to be expected for a paid product but in my case I only want this integration for my free product so I am still stuck.

Is This a Problem That Doesn’t Need to Be Solved?

I once had a colleague years ago who always came out with words of wisdom and one particular gem that I always remember is that when you have to try that hard to solve a problem, you’re probably trying to solve the wrong problem.

In essence, what I am trying to do is force the users of my free tools to receive my emails. Do I really need to do that? When I wrote my post on email list marketing one of the first things that I explained is that there will always be a huge majority of people who are simply ‘freebie seekers’ and who will never buy. If somebody really does not want to receive the emails that come with the software (they will be instructional, not just sales pitches) then am I really losing anything if they unsubscribe? Probably not.

Also, email is not the only selling mechanism. Anything I want to put in an email could probably go onto the website itself. I could have a place where I show training information, announcements of new features, special offers right there on the site in a place that would be seen when they login. Plus of course the software itself is a selling tool – if the users like what it can do then that will encourage them to upgrade if they are interested in the advanced features.

So for the moment I have decided to forget about this problem and just use the in-built autoresponder that comes with aMember. However it would still be interesting to know if others have come across this problem and how they solved it if they were able to. If that’s you, please leave a comment. Also, I will post a general update on the software project next week.


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27 Comments

  • Parser says:

    Have you considered a site like EBizAc which provides
    autoresponder, affiliate manager. ad tracker, mail list system,
    member manager, RSS Autoresponder, digital download protector, customer support manager and more.

    I use this myself and can tell you it is fantastic. All services can be integrated into any one of your sites.

    In addition, The support is the best I have seen on the web.

    Look at eBizAc

  • @Parser, I’ve never heard of that one, I’ll take a look but the fact that I have not heard of it worries me as I tend to go for market leaders.

  • Uncle Scrappy says:

    Found you via Self-Made-Chick. Great post & comments from your readers!

    With Yaro and Membernaire unique access to content is granted within each email in the sequence. To unsubscribe is to be cut loose from the next lesson or password. Even if not automated – the only action required would be rotating the password in your auto responder & member site. WDYT?

    Regarding security… for perspective: when he first started, Ryan Deiss ran a paid membership site using a fake password for many many months (it actually didn’t matter what was entered as a password) before anyone noticed.

    In terms of kicking this around: Diagnosis before prescription, test behaior.

    How do people who opt out actually behave? Do they really continue to use the free membership – just grab and go? If they continue to use the free membership – is that a problem or an opportunity? The membership landing page could be blog-like requiring a click to move on – or a short video which must be played in full before redirecting to the inner sanctum.

    Just because someone hasn’t opted out doesn’t mean they are reading your emails (some of my subscriptions are filtered directly to the “Trash” folder).

    Looking forward to your feedback.

    Scrappy

  • although having email list is good, I do not consider it essential for one to make money online. There are many blogger who are making 6 figure income without having an email list

    Vicky Web Worlds last blog post..You Have a Unique Personality

  • Really Vicky? Do you have anyone specific in mind? I’m having a hard time coming up with any…

    Mikael @ RetireRichRoadmaps last blog post..Google Keyword Competition: How to Do Competitive Keywords Analysis

  • I would suggest you buying a Autoresponder Script like EZ-Autoresponder or Interspire Email Marketer and setting it up on a VPS. Remember VPS is the way to go as too much cron jobs in shared hostings will blast it. I generally prefer Interspire and they have all the features you need I can assure you.

    Hope this solves your problem.:)

  • Hello Caroline,

    A late comment! Thanks for replying to my email by the way.

    I think “Uncle Scrappy” (May 14, 2009) had a good piece of advice. If your goal is to reach them with email. Then deliver the content with email exclusively.

    Jeff Johnson does it this way till today that he rotates passwords from time to time for his free stuff and send them out with email.

    Your friend is right, Caroline, don’t overthink this.

    Yours
    John
    E-Biz Booster Blog
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