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Crunching Some AdSense & 30DC Numbers

August 14, 2008 Posted under: Making Money Online by Caroline Middlebrook

I recently admitted that I don’t really check my stats very much. Now that I want to do some more work building niche sites I decided to check the stats for the site that is generating income and see if I can make some projections from that.

Traffic v Income

During July (which is quite typical - nothing much changes from month to month), the site received just 1,345 page views and it generated at income of $19.45. That works out to be a value per page view of 1.42 cents. Now that by itself isn’t really a very useful figure but I have been drilling down to see where the income is coming from and what I can do to boost it in future niche sites.

Traffic v Google Ranking

As I started to look through the traffic stats for the site what I really wanted to look at is which keywords brought in the most traffic, and where the landing pages on my site ranked for that keyword. Here are the stats for my top keyword (based on Market Samurai tool - get it from the Thirty Day Challenge)

  • Total searches per day:  217
  • Estimated Traffic per day for the site in the number #1 spot: 91
  • Estimated monthly traffic: 91 x 30 = 2,730
  • My Ranking: #23
  • My Traffic: 172 (6.3%)

So what that means is that the web page in the top position in the Google serps for that term should receive around 2,730 visitors per month for that keyword (other variations will bring in extra traffic of course). My page ranks at number #23 which is pretty low and that gave me 172 visitors which is just 6.3% of the traffic share.

But that’s actually not bad because I rank #23 out of 18,700 competing pages. People say you have to get on the first page in Google and while that would be nice, it isn’t essential. What is interesting for me is that I have done very little to rank - mainly just on-page SEO. I built a few backlinks via social bookmarking but that particular page only has 14 external backlinks which is pretty low. With a little effort, I’m sure I could rank better and get a bigger slice of the traffic.

Also, on that site I haven’t really optimised it very well - I created only one page per phrase and created about 5 different pages all targeting different phrases and they aren’t all that related. Imagine what I could do if the entire site is targeted towards a single phrase which is the keyword sniping strategy that I am using now.

My current site is consistently getting 25 visitors a day from those dire rankings so I’m sure I could pull in at least 100 visitors a day from a site targeting a phrase with similar numbers to the one shown above with more concentrated effort.

AdWords Values

When I started the niche site that I am analysing here I didn’t have Market Samurai to tell me how much my keywords were worth. Now I can see that I have chosen pretty poor keywords that have an AdWords cost per click of $1.00 or less. As an AdSense publisher you will usually earn a percentage of the AdWords value, perhaps 50% if you are not smart priced. My AdSense stats seems to verify those numbers.

Crunching Some Numbers

Now here is where the fun begins. I have a keyword phrase that estimates traffic of 91 per day for the number #1 spot. With my crappy #23 ranking in Google and a poor payout of probably less than $0.50 per click, I am making around $20 per month from that site. So let’s play with the numbers…

For my 30DC site, I found a rather nice niche. I have found not 1 but 10 keywords that not only fit the traffic / competition criteria, but also cost the advertiser between $2.98 and $5.97 with the average being about $3.50. There’s also 2 more keywords in that niche at just over $2.00 CPC.

I am building 2 sites right now - one is using the 30DC method and the other is using the keyword sniping method. So far, they are fairly similar but I expect that to change as we go further through the 30DC. Now for my AdSense site, if I can get 100 visitors a day and achieve a click through rate of 5% then I can expect 5 clicks per day. Assuming an average CPC of $3.00 that would be 5 x $1.50 = $7.50 per day. Multiply that by 30 days and that site would earn $225 a month!

Now what really gets me excited is the other 11 keywords that I have in the same niche! With each site explicitly targeting a unique keyword each one can get a similar amount of traffic. The highest of the keywords I have shows a daily traffic estimation (for the number #1) spot of 374. The sites will not overlap traffic wise and yet because they are all related I will find it a lot easier to write content for the new sites because I will have already familiarised myself with the topic.

So if I repeat the process a dozen times using keywords with similar payouts, that’s potentially 12 x $225 = $2,700! Now THAT gets me really excited!

And remember these are using fairly conservative numbers. If I could improve CTR by just 1% and get 6% that would work out at $3,340 - more than $500 difference! Of course all of these are just numbers, just projections but it seems entirely possible to me, easy even. The hard stuff is having the patience to actually do the work - that’s a lot of articles to write on one topic, and the patience to allow the sites to rank.

Being brand new domains I don’t expect them to start earning straight away. I launched this niche site in October and it got a little boost of traffic at the beginning for a few weeks then it dropped right off in December and stayed low until February when it picked up and has since stayed pretty level. So that’s 4 months for the traffic to stabilize.

The 30DC Monetization Strategy

The 30DC does not use AdSense. At this stage in the challenge we are promoting a single affiliate product but I know from past challenges that the ultimate aim is to find a good, profitable niche and then to develop our own product and thus retain 100% of the profits.

The key thing here is the price of the product. I have heard Dan (or it might have been Ed) say that just about any niche can become a $10k a month niche with a $97 product. But if you’re selling a $7 ebook you’re going to have to work a LOT harder to make the same money.

Now Ed’s magic formula is 200 visitors = 1 sale. From my stats above I’m not convinced I could get 200 visitors a day without doing a LOT of work but I’ll work with that for now. So assuming 1 sale a day of a $97 product that is $2,910 from one single website! However you wouldn’t want to go to all the effort of building a product just for one website so here is where related sites come into play. The idea is that you build a network of perhaps 3 or 4 sites that are related but not necessarily on exactly the same topic. However if the product relates to them all and they all produce 1 sale a day then you have a niche worth $10-12k a month!

Which is Best?

Looking at the niche I have chosen this year, I simply couldn’t imagine producing my own product in it. Plus, as I mentioned I’m not convinced that I could get 200 visitors per day either. However for my 30DC site I am selling an affiliate product that pays out $20 per sale which isn’t bad. If I got 100 visitors per day, and 1 in 200 bought the product that would be 15 x $20 = $300 which is a little higher than what I would expect from my AdSense site but not all that much. That’s why I’m building them both side by side!

So this is the strategy that I intend to use over the coming months… I’m starting out with AdSense quite simply because it’s so damn easy. I have no real desire to create my own product in these niches because that’s a truckload of effort that I just don’t want to go to. However, in each niche I will also test multiple affiliate programs to see if they pay better and while I’m at it I’ll test other monetization methods too.

If I happen to find a niche that does well with an affiliate program and for some reason I really feel as though I could develop my own product and charge significantly more than the affiliate program paid me then I would try it.

For now both sites are indexed but not ranking. Well the AdSense one is ranking but it’s somewhere around position 450 for the chosen keyword so it’s got a way to go yet!


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21 Comments:

Coqui
August 14, 2008

Caroline.

Excellent break down and looking forward to seeing how things progress.

One ? do you have a strategy for improving your rankings in Google? Will you be using article submission sites or another tactic?

Stumbled the post by the way..

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awesome job on breaking down everything you have done. Everyone will be able to see what you were able to accomplish. I’ll be interested to see what happens from here on out. If I was you I would for sure to make your articles to article directories. I know I have had success with a couple of my other blogs using article marketing.

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Lars
August 15, 2008

Excellent post, I’m looking forward to the followup later. I’m sure this is a topic that concerns millions.

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Interesting post Caroline - useful breakdown of figures. I built a couple of keyword sniping sites this weekend though I don’t think google has indexed them yet. Got any tips on how to get the spiders to stop by more quickly?

The problem I had with the sniping was finding enough content to write more than one page about one keyword. One site was easy - the other proved much more difficult and I’m not sure I’ll be able to expand it easily.

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Karl Craig-West
August 15, 2008

Thanks Caroline,

It’s good to see web marketeers actually using a scientific approach to return on investment. So many people on the web use vague numbers with little in the way of stats to back them up.

Great stuff,

Karl
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Caroline Middlebrook
August 15, 2008

@Coqui, yes I do and I will be revealing exactly what that is in the weeks to come.

@Ultimate, yes article marketing will be one of my strategies.

@Mrs S, to get a new site indexed all you need is a single backlink from an existing site that is indexed. You could link from a site you already own or just socially bookmark your new site - that’s what I do.

And yes you do need to be able to come up with about 10 pieces of content. This is something you can determine at the research stage.

@Karl, well I just hope that the results actually reflect what I have calculated here! We shall see… :)

Koen
August 15, 2008

I don’t understand why these 10 articles are really necessary. At least for the 30DC tactic. Last year we had to write a lot of articles too, but I don’t think they were needed. I wonder if one page could get the same results.

Funny thing, last year Ed showed us how to create such a content page. It was a terrible one and soon everyone had that kind of content on the tumblr site. Next day Ed was complaining about the low quality of content (we were only following your example Ed).
This year, Ed shows us how to comment. He opens a squidoo site, almost immediately goes the the bottom comment form, and writes a comment based on what he remembers seeing. He even talks about “looking like you’re not spamming”. I don’t have to translate what that means. I’m sure this years 30DC is responsible for quite some comment spam ;-)

Now where do I put that affiliate link in this form?

Dan Mihaliak
August 15, 2008

It seems some people spend too much time looking at what they are doing vice what the next step will be. If we sit back and pat ourselves on the back we will get passed by the competition.

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Thanks Caroline - I just tagged them in Delicious so hopefully that will help.

I’d be interested in seeing some of your niche sites - do you link to them from this site?

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Caroline Middlebrook
August 16, 2008

@Koen, the 10 articles is just for the keyword sniping technique. In the 30DC they haven’t specified how many articles to post - I have published three so far and will probably leave it at that unless they say otherwise.

@Mrs S, I won’t be showing the actual sites here - just the stats :)

Derek Pollard
August 16, 2008

Caroline,
These are good comparisons and I wonder if it is just coincidence the two methods balance out.

Given that you are affiliating for $20 a sale, I’m interested in which direction you researched to get to your niche keywords. Did you start off already knowing it was a high paying niche and looked for low competition phrases within it?

Cheers.

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Nice stats Caroline!

Would you put some light on some short term and long-term goals to set for Adsense earnings?

MadMapper
August 17, 2008

Hi Caroline

You mention the following in your article

Now what really gets me excited is the other 11 keywords that I have in the same niche! With each site explicitly targeting a unique keyword each one can get a similar amount of traffic.

Do I understand you correctly that in the end, apart from your two present sites, you will be creating 11 more (unique) sites to target those keywords? With 11 separate domain names?

I ask because I am in a similar position with my 30DC niche. I have 1 reasonable niche keyword but 6 good micro-niche keyword phrases (all related to the main niche) and I am wondering whether I need to register 6 separate domain names or to go with one main domain name for the niche and use sub-domains for the micro-niche keywords.

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Caroline Middlebrook
August 17, 2008

@Derek, sort of. I did some very basic research in the niche to see if it paid well (I have a post about that coming out tomorrow) and then when I found a niche that seemed high paying I drilled down to find keywords that met the rest of the criteria.

@Codrut, good question. Its difficult to set a short term goal in terms of earnings as I fully expect sites launched on a new domain to take a few months to reach their full potential in the serps and I might see very little (if any) AdSense revenue until then. Therefore what I am really looking to do is build a network of sites that will have a good earning potential in around 4-6 months time.

@MapMapper, yes that’s right however that is for the keyword sniping strategy and this is not what the 30DC guys are doing. This is another rather subtle point that I am going to be explaining more fully in an up-coming blog post. For 30DC just stick to the process for now.

Derek Pollard
August 17, 2008

Excellent, I’m looking forward to seeing that post.

Thanks again for bringing the 30DC to my attention. My wife and I are loving it, in fact to my surprise our chosen niche for the challenge has turned out to be her interest, we are a two person team :-)

Derek Pollards last blog post..The Cost of Playing the Symphony in Reverse

Andreas Ostheimer
August 17, 2008

How do you keep up with managing and building content for so many sites?

Andreas

Annie Binns
August 17, 2008

Caroline - I’m very curious how much weight you put, if at all, in the OCI (online consumer intent) figure for your keywords and phrases?

Thanks for sharing so much detail. Like last year, I really enjoy reading about your progress, and what works for you and what doesn’t.

Annie

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Caroline Middlebrook
August 18, 2008

@Andreas, so far I only have two. I aim to build the cluster of 12 over a period of a few months, I won’t be literally working on them all at once.

@Annie, I don’t use OCI at all. I look at the traffic and AdWords CPC first and then I look at the number of competing pages. If that’s a go then I take a closer look at the top 10 competing pages to see if its actually viable - a lot get cut at this stage.

Linda
August 20, 2008

Hi Caroline,

I am also looking into creating an adsense based site. Still trying to get my head around the 30DC stuff but have learnt a lot already. I look forward to reading about your progress. Good luck.

travelcn
August 27, 2008

When you make those mini sites do you pay any attention for IP and mutual linking within your network?

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Caroline Middlebrook
August 28, 2008

@Travelcn, I wont be paying any attention to IP - they will most likely all be on the same IP as they are hosted by the same company. However, further down the line when I have many sites built in a single niche I will be looking at cross linking between them. I wrote a post about this a very long time ago (October 2007 I think) but I never had a chance to put it into practice.


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