Courtney Tuttle Takes Keyword Sniping Material Offline!

I wouldn’t say to ignore it. There’s value in feedback. Even if that is negative. IMO a better approach is to evaluate the feedback. There’s only progress if you try to have your opinions falsified, and then, if they indeed are, find better ones that incorporate where you went wrong.

I know, it’s a bit off topic about that last sentence :-)

Caroline,

I couldn’t agree with you more. No matter what you do or how hard you try NOT to be misunderstood you will have people who seem to enjoy “knocking you down a peg” and purposefully disagreeing with everything you stand for.

I actually had a person give a post I did on your Traffic Rush product a negative review just because it discussed a commercial product in the post. They went on about how you had been banned and if I wanted to learn how to spam the SU database I should just save my time and money.

Excuse me but those self-appointed “defenders of all that’s right with StumbleUpon” or any other web site try my patience and resolve to abide by the premise of your post.

Keep up the good work you’re doing and keep us posted on your progress.

Best,

Jeff

Be decision on Courts part. Hope it pays off for him.

I do concur with your assertion that it really does not matter what others think of you as long as you are not doing some thing to hurt others. When somebody is working hard and creating new ideas there will be lots of people who will not be happy with the person’s success and they will try to do anything they can to stop the success. The bottom line is to absorb both the positives and negatives and try to improve the offerings based on those feedbacks.

MMMM, the old cliche: “you reap what you sow” comes to mind after reading this blog Caroline. Perhaps Court was concerned at the quality of his seed. I am new to IM, but am already jaded by the junk out their and find your work most refreshing. I have a feeling you are not easily bullied, so the neh-sayers and egotists will be frustrated with your success. You are setting a new standard in this niche i think. Court would do well to JV with you on this. But what do I know, I bought a website from a friend. It had no traffic because it was not hosted at the time I bought it (He was going to let it die a natural online death). It did have web history and that is what I was counting on. Using some of you strategies I now have five page one search rankings for popular searchs, three of which are number 1. I eagerly wait your version of Keyword Sniping. Oh, and I agree, what other people think is none of my business. It’s theirs.

it is a bit worrying, as the his move sows a bit of doubt with respect to the strategy. still, i’m glad you’re pushing through with it, as i’m curious as to whether it’ll work or not, and i appreciate your giving us a bit of an inside view.

was pleasantly surprised to learn about stumbleupon’s response to your course. seems like a pretty reasonable request, which is something i can appreciate. i do agree with a previous comment in that it’s strange to see people rushing to the defense of stumbleupon when the site itself doesn’t really appear to mind.

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well there are two possibilities, either he realized that people were using his strategy to put up spam sites or the sites that he did create using his keyword sniping method were penalized by Google for spam like behavior. I’m more likely to think it was the second one as a Google penalty is the kind of thing that might make you take a hard look at what you are doing. Still cant be sure, we will know soon enough I’m sure.

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@Jeremy, well being in this business has certainly enabled me to grow a thicker skin! In November last year I had my first taste of online hostility and it affected me quite a bit back then but it contained a valuable lesson :)

@Kouji, really the strategy is very simple and the quality of it all comes down to the quality of the content that people write, that is not part of the strategy itself. You can read all you like about creating a blog but if you write poor quality content your site will appear low quality but that doesn’t make the strategy of blogging to be spammy.

As for SU, a lot of people are very loyal fans of SU and feel that any kind of marketing is inherently bad. WHat they don’t see is the bigger picture that SU is a business like any other and when people like me write big courses about how to use SU effectively (and my course emphases quality throughout) it is actually increasingly the integrity of the community and driving more business to SU so its good business for them to have my course and others like it around.

@Kahthan, yes both of those are possibilities and unfortunately both are out of his control. Its like the 30DC – they teach a strategy but they cannot control the content that people write and in last years challenge in particular there were a ton of idiots using the 30DC techniques on spammy sites and it brought down the reputation of the strategy itself.

yeah i took the 30dc as well and the problem is that with the techniques they teach and with tools like market samurai, its way too easy for people to start spammy sites. the other thing that both of these have in common (keyword sniping & 30dc) is that they both heavily focus on encouraging domain names with the keywords, so when you try to do that with 3 to 4 word niches you end up with things how-to-watch-tv-while-making-money-and-cooking.com, and these will inevitably lead to people calling the 30d challengers spammers.

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Although if people view your product badly then it is probably wise to try and change what people feel about your product. You may think it’s the dog’s balls but if other people don’t then there’s no point continuing to promote it if you could simply change the products image so that people agree with you and think it’s good.

John

@John, yes that is true, especially if you are trying to sell whatever it is that you’re doing.

At the end of the day, Google wants to give readers the most relevant, quality content it can. If keyword sniping produces so-so content, Google will eventually figure out a way to send it down in the rankings. Produce quality content with a lot of backlinks, and over time any site can do well. Best of luck with your project!

Congrats on getting the traffic. On comments I believe responding to comments is very important.

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@Rob, keyword sniping is about site structure, not content. The content is down to the person creating the content and is completely unrelated to the strategy. Any person can write spammy content using any strategy and any person can write great content using any strategy. People see a few websites that are spammy, look at the strategy used to create or market the site and then label the strategy as spammy when the two are not connected at all.

I am also extremely happy that I studied the keyword sniping material before Court took it offline. There is some very useful material on there, and I wish he would have left it up. I kind of lost a bit of respect for the guy actually. You would think he would leave the information up so that people could share in the evolution of his philosophy. I mean that’s what I would do. But I guess Goog punished him pretty good for it, so he doesn’t have much choice but to bend over and take it from the man. Sorry that it had to down like that.

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It’s great that he came forward with his results and was honest with his readers.

For anyone who wants to read Court’s keyword sniping posts, just check archiving sites like archive.org

well there are two possibilities, either he realized that people were using his strategy to put up spam sites or the sites that he did create using his keyword sniping method were penalized by Google for spam like behavior. I’m more likely to think it was the second one as a Google penalty is the kind of thing that might make you take a hard look at what you are doing. Still cant be sure, we will know soon enough I’m sure.

@Caroline I was really happy to find your blog, but unhappy by the means I did. I was looking for Court’s article to give the link to some one and not pleased to find it taken down. I quite agree with you that as a blogger you have to be true to yourself and say your peace for what ever it is worth.

@kolitna I don’t know that it is either answer, he said he was reorganizing his entire blog to reflect his current opinion, which is a shame in many ways, since there is a lot of value in reading how someone arrived at their new opinion by examining the old information. As Court has mentioned a few times on his blog though, never trust an SEO who hasn’t been banned from google at least once.

I don’t know how long Court’s articles are going to be on archive.org, if he makes a stink about them being there they could disappear which would be a shame. I have already started downloading the ones I think are important. I have too much respect for Court to redistribute them, but I most certainly want that information for myself as long as I can get it.

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Okay, I can’t see this clearly stated anywhere here, but the reason Courtney pulled the new site is that he got spanked by Google, really badly. courtneytuttle.com doesn’t even rank for the search term Courtney Tuttle anymore. This post ranks higher for Courtney Tuttle than his own site does!

Courtney obviously thinks it’s to do with teaching people how to keyword snipe, so he’s pulled the new site. Can’t really blame him for that, as he’s just lost most of his traffic…

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Caroline, did you ever figure out what Court’s new philosophy was and why he (?) had taken down the site?

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btw, you can find Court’s original article in the Internet Archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080208151236/http://courtneytuttle.com/2007/12/20/introduction-to-keyword-sniping/